Untitled - October 22, 2025
00:00:00 Speaker: I see you doing all the things, holding all the pieces. It's a lot. Here's the truth. You don't need more time to be the mom you want to be. You need more connection. And it starts with nine minutes a day. Hi, I'm Denise Talcott with the Working Moms Redefined podcast. I've created a masterclass that tells you exactly how to build deep, lasting connection with your kids in the middle of your busy life. You can start today at Working Moms Redefined dot com or click our link in the show notes. Remember, you can do hard things, but you don't have to do them alone. Hi, I'm Denise, host of the Working Moms Redefined podcast. Let's join together as we lessen the hold of mom guilt in our lives, thrive in our careers, and raise great kids. You are doing enough. Let us boost your confidence today on this episode of The Working Moms Redefined podcast. Sleep a whole night of sleep. How amazing. That actually sounds. Now, if you were a working parent like me, it is still few and far between. And yet it's not nearly as bad as those who are still going through those newborn stages. And for those who have teenagers, you have a different kind of not sleeping because you're waiting for the child to get home. Nonetheless, sleep is something that so many of us aspire to better understand, to better get, and also to help our own children get more sleep. Have no fear. A professional is now in the room. Amy Wiebe is the founder of Unbound Motherhood, and she's the author of Olia, the Magical Sleep Fairy. It is a sleep and storytelling tool that transforms chaotic evenings into calm, connected routines that in and of itself sounds like a magic. A magic that I want in my home, like the tooth fairy. But for sleep. Aleah taps into children's imagination, so they actually want to participate in bedtime giving moms and dads their evenings and dare I say, sanity back. Now the cool thing is, Amy has over a decade of experience. She is combining the magic of imagination and creativity with the strategy of human design. This offers a different type of personalized perspective and almost a roadmap for parenting with ease. Amy, I can't wait to talk with you. Welcome to Working Moms Redefined. Wow! Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. What a vibe. It's gonna be so cool. And if you're watching on our YouTube channel, you can see just how beautiful Amy Webb is. Not only with the magic that you can tell she is encouraged and passionate about, but it's also because she must get really good sleep. So like I said, she is an expert. And Amy, tell us, what will listeners be able to take away after our time together today? Yeah. Well, I, I hope that after listening to our little conversation here, that you'll be able to pull a full report on your own self that I've created for you, you can go and get that it's a little treat nugget. I've also created a private, um, Bedtime Reset series podcast that they can listen to for their own child. Another nugget just opening your eyes up to sleep is not a one size fits all thing. It is definitely. Each kid is their own unique puzzle piece and we don't need another checklist. We just need to figure out what puzzle piece that is and then either put it in the corner or the center, or the center or whichever. What a good way to really put into picture the piece that we might be missing with our kids sleep, which in turn help us show up as better parents. So we're going to get there with the help of Amy. Amy, start this conversation off by telling us about the Olia, the magical sleep fairy. You've kind of described her as the tooth fairy, but for sleep. How'd this come about? And what have you kind of seen its impact be on families? Absolutely. So I'm a little bit sarcastic in the way that I talk. But anyways, just get this. My kids were five and four and I had not slept. I felt like even during pregnancy. So it was about six years of no sleep and I didn't even recognize myself anymore. I was dragging my butt, I was exhausted, I was frustrated, and honestly, I wasn't even enjoying the motherhood experience and it broke my heart. I cry all the time. I felt like I just wasn't nailing it at all. This broken up sleep, the like, the bedtime routines at nights just sucked. And it was like, come on, like, this is not supposed to be happening this way. Anyways, one night in the middle of the night, my one of my little guys, Jack, he came into my bed. It was two o'clock in the morning, came in and I was like. And I ended up taking me in the back and I'm like, that's it, I'm done. I went to the kitchen or I went to the living room, sat on my couch, and I'm like, okay, I've tried the lavender sprays, I've tried the comic books, the the whatever, the bedtime, the warm milk, my mom said, rubbing their back. Anything to like, just kind of get them to go to sleep and stay in their bed. Nothing was working. And then, for whatever reason, this thing just popped in my head and I'm like, if there is a tooth fairy. There's got to be got to be something for sleep. So I googled the heck out of it. Nothing was around, so I'm like, I'm making her up. I'm at my wits and I've got no family in town. I need, like, a Mary Poppins situation where someone comes in and helps me out. Right? And so I started creating magic within my kids over the next like week, week and a half and started name dropping. Like, oh, you know what we should call this fairy? And oh, yeah, then they would like, start asking you little questions and I would like name drop. Oh, well, you know, like she works with Tinkerbell and she also works with, you know, Santa and stuff like that. Like, so I started creating this, like, imagination narrative for them and they started asking questions. I didn't force it on them, but I just created it. And then by the end of it, they were asking me like, well, when can we call this slippery? And I'm like, well, I don't know. You know, she's she's got rules. She's got rules. So they're not my rules or her rules. And they were begging me for her to come. So we went through some of the rules that she might have. And, you know, it was pretty strict. And we brought, we invited into our home all imagination. Of course, there was no book at this time. And it worked. The first night, like we brushed our teeth, we went to bed, we read a book, and they stayed in their bed. They didn't keep coming up. You know how bedtime routines in the evenings are? Like the Hunger Games? Like, mom, I want another, I want another cuddle, I want another this, I want another that. And it's cute for like a minute. But then after like year after year, it's I can't even say day after day. It's like year after year you're just like. And then take them out of their cribs and put them into the big boy bed. Well forget it. Like now all, all things are lost, right? So then we just start and it worked. And they stayed in like stayed in their bed throughout the whole night, and then in the morning they didn't wake me up and I was like, Holy Dinah, this is insane. I wrote down everything that I did, and I'm like, one day I am going to help all these women. Exactly what I just what I just explained because it just worked. Bringing in that imagination, it just it created memories for my family. They love it. They love they we still talk about it all the time. And it just it worked and it was so beautiful. I loved it. So with the tooth fairy, right. There's this stay in bed because the tooth fairy is going to come in and then take your tooth and replace it with money. With Santa, go to bed because you're going to have gifts when you wake up in the morning. What did you do with the sleep fairy? What did they basically get if they stayed in bed? Or did you not even have to worry about that? No, absolutely. So I did a five day rotation and I like with them. And because I thought five days was long enough for them to like, okay, we've got a goal of after five days of, you know, and I used my own pain points and I now with clients, I switch the pain points because some kids wet the bed. Some people, you know, they have different issues than what I had. But I wrote up all the things that I wanted to have done, and if they followed these little rules, then they'd get like a little quiet gift underneath their pillow. Uh, dollar store Lego set killer loved it. They wake up in the morning so excited. It's like their little thing. And then that was that was that great, great tip. How do you think imagination is such a powerful tool? And yet at the same time, like, it's not something that we commonly lean on, but it had so much power at bedtime. Yeah, there's a few reasons for imagination, and I've thought so much about this over the years. One you're really meeting where your your child or your child's mind is at. And then they get excited about it. And because you're excited about it, then they kind of like, you know, match your energy. And it just it just clicks for them because they want to please, please a mythical creature, which is so exciting for them. We had Sleep Fairy. I kept her in my house for years and off and on like, you know, summertime we'd wild, wild west, you know, we're up late and doing this and that or whatever. But then, you know, or even if they got sick, then of course they would come into my bed and things would like adjust and change. But, Kate, let's get back onto a routine. Let's get like, let's call the sleep fairy in again, you know? So good idea. What a good idea. What are some of the biggest struggles that you hear from your clients in regards to sleep? Is it the bedtime routine? Is it the consistent waking up? What is it that you often learn about? I think it's a combination of things, and I think it really is. I think it's really the combination of just not sleeping. Um, and then at the end of the night, usually, you know, a lot of us are working moms and we want to come home. We want to actually connect with our families. And then it's like, okay, come home, make dinner, um, get like, you know, now it's bedtime. We've gotta get our baths on, get our pajamas on, and you just want that hour at night by yourself. And so when you're consistent, when this is being consistently consistent, of not having your own time to fill your own cup, the noise levels, the frustration, it just come. You're just frayed the moment. We're just frayed. And so our true authentic self is not our best self is not coming out. I mean, I know I yelled at my kids, get to bed like this is driving me nuts and I don't want to have those kind of memories with my kids. You know, I want to actually enjoy it. And that's what was so heartbreaking, right? So it really is the combination of combination. And then if their kids are coming into your, um, room in the middle of the night after they go pee and things like that, just to kind of come in and snuggle with you. It just affects their sleep. It affects my sleep. And then, you know, they're having more tantrums and more of this stuff. So this was my first groundbreaking thing that helped with that. And within like a within a couple of days I could tell the difference. What a cool byproduct to be able to quickly see the difference and help moms feel like they're doing a good enough job. Now, I'll be honest, Amy, I am skeptical knowing Hudson. He is my challenger. He is seven, and still to this day, he'll come out for one more drink at the end of the night, and then sometimes they'll come in the middle of the night and just hug, but they'll go back to bed. But you're right, it's totally impacting their quality of sleep. If you are talking to somebody and they're like, I am at my wit's end, what's the next right step I would take? And they might have a trouble, maybe even believing that something like the Sleep Fairy would work for them. What would you reply? In my week, week, week and a half, two weeks of imagination building phase, my kids actually went to school and asked their friends about the sleep fairy and they called me out on it. They're like, mom, you know what? No one knows about Sleep Fairy. And I'm like, well, yeah, they wouldn't know. She's like extremely busy. And she only goes where when a mom calls. And so I like I literally built it up so much so that I would talk to other moms before I implemented it at the park. And then they would say something like, hopefully you guys call the sleep very soon. And I would bring in like friends. One time we called the Sleep Fairy and I called my girlfriend. I said, you got to pretend that you're asleep right now and we're going to call you. We're going to ask you to come to our home. And it was just it was just so fun. It was so fun. And they loved it. And then we got into it like, we made them. We made her, um, like cookies and cupcakes and this and that, so that, like, for her visits and everything like that. So we really just built it up. But I would say that that imagination carried the kids have to be begging for her before you ask her to come in. If you tell them like they come home tonight, you know, from school and you're like, yeah, we're going to sleep tonight. They're like, what? What's going on here? They need to start really imagining her and bring her in. What a good what a good take. And I love what you said earlier about meeting kids where they are at, rather than trying to get them to come up to our level. Because when that's unattainable and that's not fun for them, going to them on their level and being imaginative is such a good point. Such a good point. You referenced earlier about how moms might be a little afraid, and parents, both men and women, might be a little afraid. What would you say to the mom who really is doing so much, trying to do everything right. But at the end of the night, partly, probably due to lack of sleep and or and not so great, bedtime is exhausted and maybe even at her wit's end. What would you say to her? You are not doing anything wrong. So many of us are struggling silently because they. Because when people are talking about being a brand new mother or having children, your in quotation marks supposed to be just, oh, I love it. It's amazing. I mean, and then you almost feel guilty that you're having these feelings because there's so many other moms that are struggling to get pregnant. So you're in this part where you, you don't really want to voice what's really going on in the inside, so you're not doing anything wrong. But when you bring in that imagination piece with your little person, it is such a game changer. And then bringing on the human design part is just that. It part is just instant. It's not even the week, it's just instant. Amy, what are some common mistakes that parents maybe are making around bedtimes? I think a lot of parents, they really are trying to nail it as a parents of their. I know right? But you know, like who cares, right? We just gotta like, let that go and just be like, you know, okay, my parents did this. I don't want to do that. I'm going to do this. And we're really projecting what would have worked for us instead of what would work for them. And like I said, we're all a different puzzle piece. So even though we're all up to the same puzzle, I'm not going to fit in the corner like you're going to have to send me into like the top middle part, you know what I mean? So when we know that each one is different and responds Spines and things land differently to them. Then we can actually honor how they are operating. And then they'll whatever we're saying is going to land for them a lot nicer. You describing the imaginative stage made me think of a time that my husband had shared that when he was growing up with his parents, his dad would come down the stairs and they would hear him after putting him to bed. The kids would hear him go back down the stairs and he would bump into things. He would bump into angels. So it was after they had prayed they would. Then he would leave and he would bump into angels on the way down. My husband remembers that to this day it is the same concept as that imaginative creativeness putting life to things that you really can't see. How amazing is that? That is so neat. What is the biggest thing that you would say your kids now say about the sleep fairy being a little bit older. Now they're sixteen and fifteen. What would what would they say? They love. They love the sleep fairy. Love the sleep fairy. Best memories of their life. They. They love the book. They love that. You know, we created the book together. Um, I brought them all in on that. I actually, I live in a resort here, and we have guests that come in and I give my book to people that I meet and things like that. And the boys, they totally speak very highly of the fairy. They just love her and adore her. It gave them such a great foundational childhood memory, which was really important to me. Like, I wanted to have a different experience for my kids. You know, I wanted to go camping with them and do all these, like, fun things and things that weren't really necessarily like in my world as I was growing up. And so I love that. I love that portion of it. Human design you've referenced a couple of times. For those who might not know, can you explain human design to us? Yeah, absolutely. So human design. When I discovered this, I it was so weird. I kept hearing people saying I was in a group and they were saying like manifesting generator, generator. This not lines one and four. I'm like, what are you guys all talking about? Like, I have no idea. And once I heard about human design, I went in a little bit deeper and I was just floored on how accurate it is and what it is truly is. It's a combination of astrology and ancient wisdom and quantum physics, and it's based on the exact time that you were born, and it shows how each of us are built naturally on how we make decisions, how we communicate, And how we relate to others, which, when you understand this, instantly reduces friction for parents. What is your human design? I am a manifesting generator, one for I don't know my lines, but I do know I'm a projector. Oh, wow. Oh, great. That is fantastic. Well, that's part of the goodies that I, I'm, I'm giving you guys all today is in. If you go to my website, Unbound Motherhood Comm, and you download your report. This is not just your chart. This is your chart. But then eighteen pages plus or minus, depending on how many superpowers you have on your individual thing. And you can download that as many as you want for yourself, your husband, your kids, whatever. But it's written for the mom, so it'll you'll love it, love it, love it, love it. We will put in the show notes Unbound Motherhood link directly as well so that you can get that personalized roadmap. So talk to me. What are the key pieces of human design that parents should know about themselves and their kids? Sure. So when you look at human design on the first day, if you've never even thought of it, you come, you come, and you look at your chart and you're like, what is this? It looks like a geometry kit set, and you have no idea. You're like, this is madness. So the first thing I always like to say is learning your type is important for yourself and for your child. It'll tell you. Are you here to start things? Are you here to build things? Are you here to guide or are you here to reflect? And for example, like my son Jack is a generator, so he's a builder. He likes, you know, he and he's got a lot of energy. And then Max, he is a manifestor and he is an initiator. So for when their bedtimes for them would look extremely different, Jack needs to burn off the rest of his energy. A tip for him would be go run laps around the house, jump on a trampoline, go for a swim in the lake. He's not wanting to read a book at the end of the night. That's not his vibe at all. Max, on the other hand, wants he wants to, like, be able to make decisions so I can say, okay, do you want to wear the blue pajamas tonight, or do you want to wear the red ones? Do you want to read a book or do you want to have a shower? What? You know, and he wants to be an authority. So he wants to be able to choose his own adventure, so to speak. So knowing that, then I can just set that landscape up for him. And then it's just so it's we're still going to bed, but very different. That is insane. So finding out your child's human design will in turn hopefully make bedtime easier, is what you're saying? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's so exciting. In order to be able to find out that chart, they need to know. Listeners need to know the location in which your child or you were born and the exact time. Correct. Correct. And if you don't have your time, you can phone the hospital that you were born at and find out. How would you say that, knowing that human design reduces the power struggles at night? Instantly. Not even a joke. It's just instant. And it's just even now, like I'm not at the bedtime phase with my kids anymore. We're at, you know, we're at teenage years, and. But I'm still honoring their design because that's who they are going to be their whole, their whole lives. So Max definitely is a manifestor through and through, and he needs to initiate and he needs to, you know, be in charge and all the rest of it. And, Jack, you know what? Jack is a generator. And I'm going to tell you, this is just so crazy. Ever since elementary school, the teachers would tell me that my kid had ADHD and that he was like, it was just not their place to tell, but whatever. Like just kept saying all these things and I'm like, okay, so I went and got him tested. No, he's not gotten tested. And I don't care if you are or not. It's whatever. So I got him in ice skate like he's gotten into hockey and then boxing. And we also downhill ski in the wintertime and game changer game changer. Like it's just how they use the type is really your energy type on how they use their energy. So they you know Jack is that generator. He needs to be able to expel his energy. And Max really needs space on his own to think, contemplate and then, you know, move forward. I am so excited to see, because sometimes I find myself getting irritated with my husband and he's like tickling and wrestling with Hudson. And he was like, he needs to get out his energy before bed. And I'm in my mind. I'm like, how do you know that? If he is this human design type, I'm going to be like, oh, he knew, he knew. Amy, you are. You said to me, Jen, what do you do for yourself to get you ready for a good night's sleep based off your human design? Well, I'm a manifesting generator, so I'm a combination of a manifestor and a generator. And I need to really have my hands in a few different pots. So this is, you know, one of my loves of my life is human design. And then I have, you know, my, my workouts and my and that sort of thing and so different things. Some people are cooking or whatever. Like I have to make sure that I'm excelling my energy, but in different spots. So in a day I'll pivot throughout my day. Usually I try to keep it towards three buckets, but then as long as I fill each one of those up, then it's then I'm good to go for sleep. Okay. So cool. So for me, being a projector, what would you suggest for me? Yeah. So projector you need invitations is one of the things that you you really need. You need people to be like, I really like you to, like, be on your podcast, or I'd really like to do this and that sort of thing. But you also are built to have not not work eight hours a day, forty hours a week. You're here to work, you know, four to eight hours a week like you just you need to have your downtime. You need to have more space and not be. Because when you work, you're really concentrated work and you're really impactful. And so you don't need all of this extra time working. Mhm. I wish that I followed that because I have read that time and time again. Like you don't need eight hours in a day, you can do eight hours of work in four hours, and that's better for you to do so. And then I'm like, yeah, but then I have these other four hours. But then I think back and I was like, was that as high quality as I really expect out of myself? No not necessarily. So being able to, like you said, then get that time to decompress if you will, is so powerful. So I love that. Very well done. Okay. Let's also then go back into how have you seen the clients that you work with as moms? How have you seen their parenting styles shift once they start really leaning into that human design? You know what the burnout, the overwhelm, and the frustration just melts away. And honestly, like if you went down to like less time working, you would probably feel the same. I don't know if you feel that way, but, you know, I mean, that would just it would just vanish because, okay, now I'm going to I'm done my work for the day. I'm going to go for a walk or whatever, but it's just you're now you're living on in your own design, so it's just who you are. It's just the gen like genetic makeup of who you are and what's in your bones and how you make decisions and all of these things. So it's just it's so freeing. It's so freeing. You know, this is so neat. We're kind of like walking through what it feels like to go through your human design. But if people wanted to learn more, they could get in contact with you, right? Absolutely. Like I said, the first thing I would say is go to that website, pull your chart, you're going to get so much information. And even if you're not at like the the bedtime part with your kids in the I have a private podcast in there that you can listen to as well. And the first one is, um, all about me just taking you through your chart so that you can read it and like, understand what I'm looking at and that that might be really helpful as well. At the end of it. You can you can definitely book a call with me. Um, and for anyone that's listening to your podcast, they can put podcast VIP and then the the fee will be waived. Oh how fun. We'll put that discount code in the show notes as well. So thank you for that, Amy. So as we're thinking as we're leaving here and we're like, okay, I am so interested in integrating the sleep fairy in our house. I definitely now want to know my human design and my kids to better be able to remove struggles at bedtime. The next question I really want to know, Amy, is how can moms set up some boundaries and rhythms in a way that feels the really, truly feels authentic and aligned with them and their family? Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. You know what the easiest. Everyone wants that that like give me a checklist of what I've got to do. Right. But if you just go and pull your report that I've built for you, and you figure out what type you are. Look at the type and then look at how you are, and then what your children are and what your family is, and then start doing some extra research on it. That's what I'm all about, is like doing the research on it and sharing and all that kind of stuff. You can ask me any question at any time, but once you start learning that, it's just it literally takes the weight off. Unbound motherhood. Com is the place to go. Where else can Amy, can these people that are so excited to now learn more about you? Go to find you. I'm on Instagram ish. Um, uh, you know, I'm really actually going off of social media and just doing everything within inbound motherhood. I'm building a little community in there where I'm going to be having a bunch of other trainings and stuff like that for human design and in any language, and so that people can understand what, what all of this craziness actually is. And I'm just building like the people that want to actually hear it come to me. I'm not really a social media gal. Um, I mean, you can look me up on my name, uh, on my personal profile on Facebook. I'm on there. Sometimes I will, you know, post little things here and there, but for the most part, it's unbound motherhood. And then you can just get into my world that way, I love it. Okay, before we part ways, my favorite part of the podcast are these lightning round questions at the end. So simple answers, whatever comes to mind. Amy, what is one word that describes your own bedtime routine when you were growing up? Comfort. Oh that's beautiful. I love that if Alia the Sleep Fairy could give moms one magical gift, what would it be? Peace? Yes, please. What is the one bedtime tool Besides the sleep fairy that you could not live without. And it was. Well, then it would have to be human design. What is one word that the kids would probably describe? The visit from Aaliyah. Magical. Special. They loved her. Just special. So good. Last question. If you could change one thing about bedtime in every home, what would it be? I would just want it. I just want to dissolve that. I just want it to be beautiful for them. I want to dissolve that that horrible rabbit hole that we keep going on when it's just like frustration, building on frustration. And, you know, I just want to cut that cord and give them like, I want them to be able to enjoy it. I like I just had such a hard time with it. So I just want everyone to just enjoy it. So much to Just know that you were able to come from the heart, and to get to the side of enjoyment gives so many people so much hope. Amy Wiebe with Unbound Motherhood. Com. Visit her. Learn about her book, learn about human design, and get connected in a community that is centered around you. This season of life, whichever one you are in with your kids is hard. And yet remember, you can do hard things. Thank you for listening to the Working Moms Redefined podcast. It is not lost on me that you chose to spend time together. Thank you. Let's connect outside of the space on socials. We'd love for you to follow us on Instagram, Facebook LinkedIn, Pinterest. We've got it all to connect with you. If you feel as if someone in your life could be impacted by this message, feel free to share it. That is the biggest compliment as we part ways together. Remember, you can do hard things.
